Here is the original post which drew my attention and the topic I was staying on as much as possible: "If you want to avoid using GMO seeds, here is a list of seed companies owned by Monsanto. Ferry-Morse is one of the oldest operating seed companies in the United States, having been in continuous operation since 1856! Because, after the Seminis buyout, Territorial and others were purchasing some seeds from a Monsanto subsidiary, some really nasty rumors got started that Territorial, Johnny's and others are owned by Monsanto. Add to Cart. --, if I must only bow to Anti-Monsanto preachers or Monsanto marketers.. If you want to avoid using GMO seeds, here is a list of seed companies owned by Monsanto. The genetic engineering of human insulin was actually the first patent awarded in the field in the 1980's. I could write an article stating that the government is doing covert genetic testing on citizens by adding something to the water to make people taller or shorter and people would think it was legitimate, because some random person typed it up and posted it online. And I added as a reason - the difficulty I was having with the amount of time it was taking to respond to your comments, your analysis of me that made - me - more the topic of conversation than the subject being discussed. I support first-hand experience, accuracy, truthfulness and completeness when evaluating any product. I will try to get back here and finish reading everyones later. False is false. I'll have to look for them, to see if I can't expand the seed companies I do business with. You see diseases developing, like the Citrus Greening disease, and you think, wellmaybe GMO and Monsanto will rescue us from these. Yes, I understand that people exaggerate, often because they've had an emotional reaction to something that really disturbs them. hb`````pd&03EY8zT'00a@,d/Dy ) d|HXDh+3&0%18?`aeT,&1gh)smi`8pIni`!ah k\w'@w06` Y0:tcr4#0 3: endstream endobj 575 0 obj <>/Filter/FlateDecode/Index[28 494]/Length 39/Size 522/Type/XRef/W[1 1 1]>>stream Crop failures and disasters have been a reality since the dawn of agriculture. All rights reserved. All corporations have to be registered with the AG of their state, with the names of the owners and primaries. Ferry Morse Seed Company is one of America's oldest and most trusted garden seed companies. I buy native plants and grow organically. They are a Coop and have taken a strong position on this subject. People tend to gloss over all the grey, and even white, areas as a way to paint the entire issue as something to be reviled and hated, something to be fought against. It goes against my core beliefs. I respect everyone's beliefs which include not giving them false and misleading info because it is morally my belief. 'Any talk of avoiding the seeds for purchase is circular logic - intended to manipulate people by bullying the and using fear as a weapon'. If they discontinue their variety they know me and thousands of others will kick their butt. I found out that Plantation Products (such a lovely company, NOT) owns American Seed, Ferry Morse, Jiffy, NK and McKenzie. Do you realize that many people already are avoiding all soy and corn because of the difficulty now of finding non GMO soy and corn? I feel all comments among us should be assumed to be in good faith without having to win favor in "the benefit of the doubt", as this shouldn't be a political forum. So I don't trust the viability of this list. In hindsight, I should not have taken the time to do so, I was rushing. 0000003180 00000 n And I'm not sure about Ecowatch, but supposedly that is a reliable website with news about the environment. 0000535474 00000 n It is currently part of Green Garden Products, a privately owned gardening company based in Massachusetts. [And you did not directly quote me before disagreeing with what I said in that instance. All Ferry-Morse seeds are 100% Non-GMO. Two publications that came to mind are the Christian Science Monitor and Mother Earth News, a magazine that has been in business for 35 years. Ferry-Morse 60MG Zinnia Cut & Come Again Annual Flower Seeds (1 Pack)- Seed Gardening, Full Sunlight. I'm simply saying that I don't trust Monsanto. I don't think that that is a very reliable list. 0000519553 00000 n [4], By the early 1900s, the company was doing over $2,000,000 per year in business, and supplying seeds to 160,000 retail outlets. Anyway, let me try again.without going back to reread the thread again. 5 Non-GMO Seed Companies to Plant in Your Monsanto-Free Garden No you dont see Monsanto rescuing us but yet, you are hoping that the GMO potential solution will. So who is it that began the never ending GMO debate? I carefully put a disclaimer transferring the burden of fact checking to others? Since Ive been too busy responding to your comments, Ive yet to read where the India situation was debunked. The context of my comment was that in exiting the conversation you told me you were going to give me the benefit of the doubt about my intentions. [2] But you claim that you do. [8], In the early 1900s, D.M. So, because I have discussed avoiding GMO seeds, I am deliberately manipulating people and bullying them and using fear as a weapon, with an argument that is illogical? I would have liked to have had a friendly, collaborative discussion, but unfortunately, that is not how this conversation has evolved. Id like to see individuals participate more in creating businesses that are all about community and supporting the environment. Please be respectful of my time. Nearly 70 percent of gardeners said they buy most of their seeds from mail-order vegetable seed companies. I'm just sharing my take on it. The release will only happen if it passes the regulatory hurdles and more importantly works. The other thing you said *about* being misquoted is *false*, quoting what you say now: "PC misquoted me, I said people becoming aware of the issue of GMOs was a good thing.". List of Seed Companies Owned by Monsanto - Houzz Yes, you have the burden of fact checking any information for yourself. There is only room for one other comment before this post becomes to long for me. Any questions I've asked were rhetorical and require no response. I just clicked on it and it went right to it. From 1856 onward, Ferry Morse seeds have been supplying the freshest and best garden seeds for the home gardens of American gardeners. If this is true, how did that happen? What you have said here, is that people should not be avoiding Monsanto seed companies and you actually are indicating that you think that anyone who is avoiding Monsanto seed companies is either without logic, or has been manipulated or bullied and is afraid of something that they should not be afraid of. I have not responded to each point you've made because my posts would become much too long. I'm happy with the companies I am doing business with. Which if you had shared that, we might have found some common ground. Loss of the citrus industry will be catastrophic and change Florida. :-), I hope that clarifies what I was trying to say. Operations in Charlevoix, Michigan began when the train lines extended up to that area in 1892, and a large Charlevoix warehouse facility was built in 1905 along the lake near the new Chicago and West Michigan Railway line. Better to leave the door open! 0000489481 00000 n Ed, do you see the green sentence at the bottom of the thread, to click on to switch off notifications? We are both very detail minded, wanting precise meaning of words used, not enjoying being misunderstood triggering lengthy explanations. As should every living person on the earth. OK :-) Thank you for telling me the rules. It is your right to have that belief, whether religiously-based, socially-based, scientifically-based, statistically-based, etc. And complete information doesn't exist, there is always some amount of information that is unavailable to us. [10], In 1981, Ferry-Morse became part of France's Groupe Limagrain, the largest seed producer in the world. It is not my fault that they bought it. Pupilla - Im surprised, that you have taken offense at my last post. However, after doing this research, I have bought my last Ferry Morse seed packet. Youve said twice you consider yourself an independent thinker. Also the list is also, "or sells small percentages of seed from them.". Our Brands Green Garden Products I also have many other heirloom tomatoes which I enjoy too, and I am happy with the current GMO-free assortment of interesting heirlooms and faithful hybrids I get dependable results growing and are delicious. Do you have 12 months to wait for it? "We do not buy seed from Monsanto-owned Seminis. If Monsanto buys the mortgage to a house you live in one day, I wouldn't hold it against you and I would still respect any of my friends, because I like my friends and I don't have to like who owns the house they sleep and breed in :-). Founded in 1856, Ferry-Morse seeds have been sold continuously in the United States. These three suggestions will hit Monsanto's bottom line perhaps 1000X more effectively than some boycott of seeds such as Big Boy, Better Boy, Early Girl, Big Beef, etc., all conventional hybrids that are excellent tomatoes and are delicious, GMO-free, conventional good tasting tomatoes that are home garden seeds, which get discontinued all the time when consumer demand drops leaving those of us who like the varieties crying that Big Ag stopped producing them because there wasn't enough demand. Since 1897, gardeners have trusted American Seed to provide the best value in the marketplace. And you are right, we're probably not putting a dent in their bottom line. It will only cause Monsanto to close down unprofitable seed companies which will cause a loss of natural genetic diversity. Someone above in this thread, mentioned that they were not concerned with whether or not Monsanto was buying up seed companies, because they doubted that Monsanto would ever sell GMO seeds to home gardeners, because of a worry about their patent. Find My Store. As for the people who rely on the government and regulatory agencies to protect them, I'd say that putting all your faith in the government for ANYTHING is living in a fools paradise. It's rhetorical. I gave you a link to what I thought an realistic assessment on it from National Geographic, too where some concerns are mentioned. [8] By 1930, Ferry was growing most of its seed in California, and the two firms had complementary businesses.